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LEAVING NO RADIOACTIVE STONE UNTURNED
Iona: How do these cover ups relate to US atomic policy?
STONE: Only a few years after Hiroshima, the US government began a series of atomic tests involving real military personnel and real or simulated/civilian situations! From the beginning it was clear these tests were disastrous, producing large amounts of radioactivity and significant exposures for humans.
Iona: Yes, it is public knowledge that both John Wayne and Susan Hayward died from cancers due to exposure incured during filming in the desert. Horses stirred up the contaminated soil, and they inhaled toxic amounts of radioactive dust.
Several Pacific Atolls were made uninhabitable for many years. Many years later some compensation was provided. However, the military and civilian exposures have been treated much less generously. By 1950 a series of ground tests started at the Desert Test Site near Las Vegas, Nevada. This became the first high tech facility known to be located in Southern Nevada.
We now know about Area 51 and Groom Lake. The atomic tests seem in retrospect to be of little value and were costly in human terms. A conservative estimate of 250,000 military personnel were exposed. Untold numbers of civilians and Downwinders also received significant fallout. Is estimated the total fallout from the Las Vegas tests to be at least 200 times Chernobyl. Many Nevada tests were ground bursts and had dirty designs. One series was appropriately named “Upshot-Knothole”.
The above ground tests lasted until the early 1960’s. A famous motion picture features the discovery that the training documents are an exact copy of those from 1950. The original US Government cover-up was carried out by the then Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Warren Burger.
He of course later was appointed the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. The Federal Courts have played a key role in these very dirty situations. In fact it is one of the largest and dirtiest in US Government history. Although in theory compensation was approved, it is not clear how many have received any significant compensation. There is substantial evidence of “cooking the books” by manipulating dose reconstruction. We will never know how many thyroid and other cancer were caused by airborne fallout. Ironically Warren Burger’s “Minnesota Twin”, current Chief Justice William Rehnquist, is dying of thyroid cancer.
Just the destruction of the veteran’s records in the late 1980’s is the domestic equivalent of the Iran Contra. It is not clear how well informed the Reagan Administration or President Nixon were on these issues. The current Atomic Test Museum and records center in Las Vegas are making a better effort to help surviving atomic veterans and exposed “Downwinders”and their families.
Several atomic activists or journalists who have spoken out were threatened or even murdered including Karen Silkwood. In 1986 the President of NARS (National Association of Radiation Survivors, Dorothy Legretta died in a similar accident also on the way to meet a New York Times reporter. This story has never been reported by the media. Dr. Legretta had a great deal of expertise and documentation. Eventually many of the documents also disappeared.
Much of the cover-up has been in the name of protecting atomic energy. However, I believe that with the newer and safer technologies available the risk of radiation exposure is much lower. To try to overcome the demonization of atomic energy the Federal Government created some of its bigger problems.
Also in 1986 an effort was made to frame an investigative writer for murder. It involved the famous FBI Agent who helped inspire the movie “Silence of the Lambs”. Both the Justice Dept. and FBI went to great lengths to carry out the cover-up! This was also linked to corruption at the University of Michigan Medical School, the largest Federal case in Michigan history. The involvement of a major University is also an important part of the story.
Iona: Speaking of protecting atomic energy secrets, I find the theory that cattle mutilations might have something to with radiation monitoring plausible because of the stealth and specific body parts taken. Do you think that cattle mutilations may have anything to do with checking radiation levels downwind and in jet stream areas in cattle and game animals?
Recently a deer “mute” was found close to a woodland residence inside a crop circle in my home town in Oregon. This incident was reported by Linda Moulton Howe, and it stands apart for its unusual combinatory features. Do you have any theories on cattle mutilations?
STONE: The Black Gold and other valuables looted from East Asia has been the basis for several NEXUS articles by a British investment banker, my contemporary, David Guyatt. He has also done a major article on electromagnetic weapons in which Carl Schleicher is also mentioned. His Nexus articles dealt with their use in non-lethal situations. It seems at least three main areas of my experience have a link to NEXUS stories. You also mentioned deer mutilations near Grant's Pass.
The most far out information I found on radiation testing is: It was used by NASA for astronaut evaluation for the Van Allen radiation belt! That was not discovered until after the Las Vegas testing started. One of the key investigators for the Manhattan project in Europe in WW II was a Dr. Kuiper. He was the person who discovered and named the Kuiper Belt of asteroids in the far reaches of the Solar System.
Much more sinister is the POTENTIAL use of the radiation studies for genetic experiments with aliens in underground labs in New Mexico, e.g. Dulce, et al. This was also part of the reason possibly for Dr. James Neel's strange experiments with dose doubling and various other studies using indigenous populations.
Iona: Are you saying you accept the presence of aliens as a given?
Knowing what you know about atomic fallout and radioactive decay, why are you not more concerned with allegations that Depleted Uranium is one of the main sources of Gulf War Syndrome? Don’t you think it is highly toxic both to humans and the environment? Please tell us your theories about GWS and how you arrive at them.
STONE: I can tell a suspected story about the Brucellosis Triangle. It has already been in NEXUS just before 9/11! My sponsor in grad school was the government top expert in Brucella. That Department at Michigan State supervised the Michigan Dept. of Health with the anthrax vaccine which was contaminated with mycoplasma. That is the probable cause of severe Gulf War Syndrome.
There are several causes for Gulf War Syndrome. I have interviewed Dr. Garth Nickolson, the most published microbiologist worldwide. He and his staff were persecuted for years until it was realized that he was important. His group has treated Gulf War soldiers with drugs which are effective against mycoplasma infections. The mycoplasma found in Gulf War veterans sometimes has gp 120 protein attachments.
Nickolson’s story is compelling including attempts by biowar terrorist companies on the life of his staff and FBI guards. He was fired from M.D. Anderson Cancer Hospital in Texas. His group is now based in Irvine, CA. He claims that 15% to 20% of the population in Iraq, southern Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Jordan have Gulf War syndrome.
There are very strange neoplasms in Gulf War III soldiers. As the article states, the disability rate for Gulf War II is incredible. It is interesting NEXUS had an article on the Brucellosis Triangle just before 9/11. It deals with the origins of the 90 plus species of mycoplasma. During WW II the Brucella bacteria was modified and a crystalized toxin was produced (artificial mycoplasma). The gene sequence of mycoplasma fermentans is an exact copy of part of the Brucella genome.
These mycoplasma were tested worldwide after WW II causing a number of neurogenic illnesses including Parkinson's Disease, MS, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, etc. My sponsor in graduate school at Michigan State University, Dept. of Microbiology and Public Health was the Federal Government's top expert on Brucella from the late 1930's through the 1970's. The Gulf War Anthrax vaccine was produced by the Michigan Dept. of Health in Lansing under the supervision of my Dept. at MSU. Gulf War Syndrome is associated very closely with that vaccine which was contaminated with mycoplasma.
Just before the anthrax letters were mailed, Peter Jennings at ABC News did an infomercial for CIPRO and continued to hype it throughout the anthrax crisis. There are a number of cheaper and more effective drugs for treating anthrax including penicillin V. One of the toxic anthrax letters was sent to Senator Leahy's office. His staff then covered up the investigation of Peter Jennings. So there is your media, bureaucracy and academia in action.
What evidence do you have the depleted uranium is the actual cause of the bizarre cancers, etc. seen in Gulf War III? The only proven effect of depleted uranium is kidney damage. How do you know the DU story isn't part of the cover-up for the mycoplasma fermentans story?
ROLLING STONE GATHERS MANY STORIES
Iona: That’s an angle I had not considered, but it could still be “all of the above”. What are some other topics under your rubric of ‘The Washington Connection’?
STONE: As an example of how corrupt Washington really is, it is hard to beat the following tale of academic and judicial corruption. We all have been exposed to the FBI abuses of the 1970's. Yet, many important aspects of these stories remain unknown. I would like to show you how the Federal Government and at least one major university have carried out a long-term cover-up of the worst kind. This saga starts with an Ann Arbor VA Hospital case and a medical student due process case. Both were associated with the University of Michigan, which still operates that VA Hospital, and has a top rated law and medical school.
In both instances, some of the same University and Medical officials were involved in both cases. Both were tried in the Federal District Court for Southern Michigan (Detroit) at the same time and had the same pattern of questionable activity. The VA case became a major international scandal making the front pages of The New York Times, etc. The medical student case remains unknown.
The Federal Court reversed the VA case only after intense and prolonged media scrutiny and a conviction for both nurses in an unusual maneuver. The student case was never allowed to come to trial despite the blatant evidence. The Federal Judge is a former Vice President of the Alumni Association for the same University and has a long history of questionable activity.
Later during the 1980's, the FBI tried to frame an investigator of these cases for murder. There was another vicious murder on the estate of the family which controls the tenth largest foundation in the country. That foundation is a major supporter of the Medical School in question.
John Douglas, who has been hailed as the new Sherlock Holmes and helped inspire the famous book and movie Silence of the Lambs, performed the FBI profile. Mr. Douglas is quite prominent in the media and had a book on the top ten best seller list recently. The second FBI investigation occurred at the same time as the massive veteran's controversies of the 1980's involving atomic veterans, Agent Orange questions, due process for benefits and much more.
There was large-scale destruction of atomic veterans records. The Medical School Dean responsible for the Ann Arbor VA Hospital case had become the Deputy Chief, Acting Chief and Chief Medical Director of the VA. That office is responsible for the essential questions for atomic veterans and Agent Orange related questions. The document shredding is well documented by a 1986 The Nation article by Mark Perry who shared in the 1998 Nobel Peace Prize.
This is a sample of the real story. Both the FBI and Justice Dept. fought me through Federal Court to obtain the essential records. The Dept. of Veterans Affairs made a totally unreasonable search fee of over ,000 for a fairly limited number of records relating to the Ann Arbor VA Hospital case, atomic veterans, Agent Orange questions and the former medical school dean. Let me tell you more about what really happens!
High level academic and judicial corruption with links to big issues in Washington, DC. includes several high profile questionable FBI investigations, the largest Federal case in Michigan history, the Family Rights and Privacy Act of 1974, the Student Loan System and much more. This story recently has received national publicity, making A&E Cold Files. A recent book titled Blood Justice by Tom Henderson reveals part of the story.
Yet the effort to discredit the investigative writer and the cover-up of very serious both civil and criminal fraud continues linking a major medical school with some of the largest and dirtiest cover-ups in US government history. These include the atomic veterans cover-up (the domestic equivalent of The Iran Contra), the James Neel story -- the reported largest fraud in anthropology and a lot more.
There was a concerted effort to discredit the key microbiologist who helped expose Gulf War Syndrome, Dr.Garth Nicholson and the perversion of the Buckley Act (Due Process in Education). The continued suppression of these topics by the mainstream media is among the best examples of media fraud. This includes a former President of The National Press Club in Washington, DC.
WITHIN A STONE’S THROW
Iona: One of the main tenets of the human potential movement was about choice – personal experience – decisions – moments of responsibility when you take on your own shoulders the responsibility of your fate. Futurist, Jeremy Rifkin (2004) has called this an American trait when he recently contrasted the American Dream with the European Dream.
"These are tumultuous times. Much of the world is going dark, leaving many human beings without clear direction. The European Dream is a beacon of light in a troubled world. It beckons us to a new age of inclusivity, diversity, quality of life, sustainability, universal human rights, the rights of nature, and peace on earth. We Americans used to say that the American Dream is worth dying for. The new European Dream is worth living for."
He suggested that we would have a better model for global living if we combined the two – the willingness take personal responsibility with the greater communal sense of Europe. Do you think that is the right direction to head toward solving the egregious historical problems that seem to repeat themselves over and over?
STONE: The EU was born from a conference held in Germany in late 1944. It was intended to save as much as possible from the defeat of Nazism. It was under in overall direction of Hitler's Deputy and some say by that time the real master of Germany, Martin Bormann. Right now the EU looks good! But the USA is not out! It could still outshine old Europe. We are at the end of "the American century" in a much more competitive world. But is the EU more competiive than the USA?
The EU has a more homogenious population than the USA. It does not have the large under class which has developed. It doen not have the large numbers of minorities. It does not have the huge appetite for financing from other countries. The biggest risk is almost never mentioned, the trillions of dollars of leverage in derivatives, a poorly understood financial instrument. It could all crash making 1929 like like a picnic!
ROLL AWAY THE STONE
Iona: Just how did you come to work for Dr. Schleicher? Did you ever do any SpecOps, PsiOps, or BlackOps projects? What were your qualifications for such work?
STONE: I was not with Carl until seven years after he was publically exposed in 1980. But MRU was a front for the most advanced mind control technology at that time.
My exposure to esoteric science started with Carl Schleicher. Actually a little earlier I used to like to go the the very house in Philadelphia where the famous 19th century psychic lived. It is where the dog slept on her leg and brought an overnight cure. It's the Black (or White) Dog Cafe. And of course there were other things in that area of PA, NJ, DE and MD where I lived. Even next to the Hall where the Constitution was written is The American Philosophical Assn. Especially at night it seems strange. I was there at the time of the Bicentennial of the Constitution.
I’m more of an investigator. I have used some of the Tarpley associated history in one of my projects dealing with Tavistock Institute, for example. That was the pioneer MI 6 Agency which led to MK Ultra (“Mind Kontrol”) and much more.
I believe that Dr. Carl Schleicher was a front for the most advanced high tech part of that effort when Richard Miller worked with him. Most likely Richard and his associates were not aware of Carl's full role. He had many good people working under him.
I worked with Carl from 1987 thru 1992. I was his Deputy. By that time he had been exposed by a magazine in DC. That publication was also a waste because it only exposes harmless people like Carl Schleicher essentially was! A much fuller story is of course that exposing the "powers that be" who are behind all of this. Like Carl Schleicher, the Bush people are doing what more powerful groups want done!
I have sent excerpts from the book Hitler's Terror Weapons which starts to bring that story to light for WW II. The author, Geoffrey Brooks believes that WW II was also the opening phase for an effort to completely wipeout mankind. The Germans and Japanese were to be used to carry that out and then destroy themselves. A recent fictional book in the Clive Cussler series Atlantis Found also plays on that theme being based in Argentina even using WW II era subs, etc. All of the books in that very popular series are based on true stories in my opinion. The most recent, Black Wind, even involves the weapons of mass destruction story relating to Japan. Imperial Japan had enough anthrax to kill everybody in the world!
Iona: What kind of credibility did you bring to the task of being Carl’s deputy? Do you have a Curriculum Vitae, or any advanced degrees? What special skills?
Iona: Were you an observer or a participant in any psi research? The urban myths make Carl sound like the ‘Cigarette Man’ on the X-Files. What kept you going back?
STONE: It was exciting learning about his new ideas which came along frequently or technologies to develop potentially. He had his own companys which controlled Blood Irradiation. We tried to promote several modalities for drug and alcohol abuse -- 3M Program using Kundalini Yoga, Electronic Drug and Alcohol treatment, earthquake prediction technology, a German based technique for AIDS therapy using hydrogen peroxide. It was crude but has produced cures.
There was a project for using poultry waste to produce a high protein powder for food. It was okay! But horrible! There was also a problem with the nasty chemicals used. There was a low cost housing project which never went anywhere. We stayed busy, but no breakthroughs were made TO MY KNOWLEDGE!
Iona: What types of projects were you personally involved with? Were there other projects you got wind of but were not privy to? How do we know you are not a mole? Do you happen to have any of your MRU pay stubs or tax records from that period; some kind of paper trail?
STONE: I started with Carl Schleicher by sending him a resume in the summer of 1987. He expressed interest, but suggested I wait to start. This came in the fall of 1987. At first I worked with Carl two days a week at his office. The rest of the work was done from my house in PA. It is a two + hour drive right down I-95 to downtown Silver Springs, Maryland where his office was located. It was an ideal but somewhat sleazy area. We started on promoting his key projects to save the world. I learned a lot about psychotronics, including diagnostic devices. But the emphasis was on bringing these new ideas to the attention of the Federal Government.
Iona: Many of the researchers at MRU displayed extraordinary human potentials as well as studying them. In many cases, such as psychic Sean Harribance, these unusual talents were their reason for being there. Sean began working with Dr. J.B. Rhine in 1969 and was the first to get high scores on ESP tests where EEG, EKG and galvanic skin response sensors were used. He was also the first to show a link between high ESP scores and a specific brain wave.
His site says, “In 1976, the parapsychology labs could no longer give him a salary so he moved to Maryland in search of research funds from government sources. In Maryland he did some work with Mankind Research, and continued some part-time research with Duke University. Sean began to realize that by proving himself to others, he could generate further interest in parapsychology, and the psi research.” In 1998 he continued his work with Dr. Michael Persinger.
Do you have any such abilities or try to develop them? What was the most extraordinary display of unusual abilities you saw during your work with Carl?
STONE: He never mentioned any of the interesting findings or good people like Rick Miller. We wondered about auras. It too seemed strange. I did not know about Miller's work until recently. Regarding known personalities: I met a Dr. Zedek who was President of the International Psychotronic Association from Czechoslovakia. I met Dr. Eldon Byrd who died several years ago who was a known personality. I met a better and more competant version of Carl, Mark Benza. He was based in Calgary, Alberta. Mark did make a number of breakthroughs. But he was a misguided genius! He also died several years ago.I did learn about remote viewing, dowsing and a lot more.
NOT MADE OF STONE
Iona: On a positive note, Carl seems to have focused even more strongly on health and healing when he created MRF. Perhaps he’d had enough of the “Dark Side”. It is ironic that even though MRU is blamed for some of the most heinous psychophysical experimentation, it also seems to have been the herald of social trends such as the LSD era of the 60s and the fad that came to stay, the New Age movement. Most of my psychotherapist friends blame the cavalier attitude of Timothy Leary for ruining the therapeutic potential of psychoactive drugs.
STONE: It is almost certain that the Unabomber was associated with a key mind control expert at Harvard when he was identified as a 16 year old mathematical genius. It is believed that something was done to him at that lead to his madness. That is just one of the examples of the damage caused. Not the least of these was turning universities into huge drug and alcohol dens!
It was only after his death in 1999 that we knew of the earlier role of MRU as a front for the CIA for its most sensitive mind control technology. In one book, CIA Mind Control Operations in the USA, Carl is credited with inventing the cyborg, a human robot triggered by external means. We will never know the full extent of MK Ultra.
Some of the technolgies featured in NEXUS or by MRF in embryonic development will someday be used in medicine or energy medicine. Some medium technological examples are showing up now for healing or pain management.
Iona: Like TENS and Alpha-Stim, which have become pain and depression management staples. One interrupts the pain signal to the brain and the other uses tunable transcranical electrostimulation to create brainwave coherence – Alpha and Theta. Still other brain-driving techniques use resonance or brainwave entrainment.
You loosely allege that virtually nothing MRU/MRF investigated panned out. Yet that isn’t quite true if you have a comprehensive view on where this research went. Rick and I are personally continuing this work with Lian Sidorov at www.emergentmind.org with its Journal of Nonlocality and Remote Mental Interactions, for example. We’ve interviewed many of the original MRU and SRI players who are still active in the field. We also continue our independent investigations through the Organization for the Advancement of Knowledge (O.A.K.).
STONE: Yes, in his later years, Carl Schleicher tried to bring esoteric knowledge to the attention of the Federal Government for AIDS, Cancer, Drug and Alcohol Abuse, etc. MRF brought forward a number of approaches which could have been developed. Unfortunately, he turned off the very people he wanted to influence. I was his Deputy at that time.
Iona: I am interested in hearing what you mean by “turned them off” and who “they” are. Are we talking about personality, credibility, or incredibility?
STONE: Carl was a pretty strange man. I wish I had a picture of his desk. You have seen the cartoon "The Professor" with the stacks of papers etc. He had file drawers full of old reports, some open. He had an office manager, Roger Little and typist, Bob (both male). Roger Little moved to Salt Lake City to work for the Mormon Church and moved on. One had a mental handicap but could not read Carl's handwriting. (Idiot Savant, I presume).
I assisted Carl with all DC based activities. This included marketing, sales, promotion, evaluation of technology, media contact, attending conventions etc.
Carl mentioned his previous lab and much bigger operation on Kalorama Rd. in DC. But provided no details. He claimed his earlier work was as a Naval Intel Officer working on intercepts and codes in Turkey. Most of our time was spent promoting his "innovative" approaches. Often there was something wrong with the technologies. Then there was Carl's personality.
He was a classic Dr. Strangelove.
We knew very little about his earlier operation in which Rick Miller and other known researchers were involved. To my knowledge Carl was not involved in supervising research. But he had a lot of people in the wings who were ready to go if he made another breakthrough.
His way of dealing with people turned everybody off. He was especially bad with women. He had a nice widow from Hungary and California who would visit from time to time. It was only a plutonic [sic] relationship. His handwriting and other communication skills were not very good for a very smart man. Even his English was not that good.
Carl was constantly sending information to people about psychotronics and being a Johnny Appleseed in that way. We had a number of interesting people and scientists who visited the office. But again Carl's social skills were't very good. He would never even have coffee or tea for visitors. That is part of the reason for my questions to you and Richard about his past activities.
Over the years my knowledge has expanded in different areas. NEXUS does present an ideal outlet for some psychotronic ideas but goes far beyond that field. There is actually a range of technologies from electronic to electromagnetic to suble energies to psychotronics and beyond.
After Carl was exposed in 1980 he never recovered his "glory days". It does appear that he contributed to or was given credit for a number of important findings. Again that is a reason for my questions.
Iona: It looks to me like the truth is unresolvably muddied. I think he has gotten credit for things he did not do, for both good and evil. Likewise, he has perhaps not been recognized as an important link in the chain of many biomedical advances, for example.
I have not worked with Carl since 1990. But I did stay in contact with him and would stop by his office over the next decade. He liked me! But he was difficult to work for or with. But there were always a lot of good people like Richard Miller who did the actual work, each in their respective areas.
Iona: The MRF pamphlet for 1994 listed the following:
Studies alternative health treatments, Kirlian photography, dowsing, biotechnolgies for the handicapped, and drug addiction.
Some projects associated with psychotechnology:
Using "high frequency electro-stimulation of muscle and neural tissues" to stimulate atrophied muscles in the handicapped.
"Hearing aid device, developed as an auditory nerve by-pass to the brain via the skin". Sounds similar to the Neurophone.
"Blind 'I-C' device, based on advanced electronic signal processing technology which can enable a sightless person to 'electronically sight and view' his environment."
Behavior modification with subliminal suggestion, for drug and cigarette addiction.
Associated with:
The Center for Preventive Therapy and Rehabilitation
S.A.F.E. (Society for the Application of Free Energy): Studies psionics, dowsing, radionics, and radiesthesia.
The International Assocation for Psychotronic Research
All of the above shared an address with MRU.
STONE: Several months ago I tried to pass on to General Motors new ideas and technologies for health care. The only one which could be used was the electronic drug and alcohol treatment.I still have my papers from that era. In fact, I have a box of unsorted documents which could still yield something! We had a joke about Carl’s voluminous proprietary files which he claimed if “raided” might have some value. I don't know what his sister did with Carl's papers.
But it does appear from Richard Miller's work and corroboration that Carl played an important role in supervising a group of diverse people. In addition he was a worldwide "Johnny Appleseed" for psychotronics, etc. Hopefully it will bear fruit some day.
Iona: Online there is a 1995 research paper Carl himself wrote on his ultraviolet irradiation of blood project, as the Foundation for Blood Irradiation. Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation (UBI or UBIT) is a certified nontoxic therapy that inactivates blood-borne viruses, such as Hepatitis and HIV. It is also called Photoluminescence, Hematologic Oxidative Therapy. It raises the resistance of the host to control the disease process. In his tests, each treatment of UBI reduced PCR Viral Activity by 50%-75%.
http://www.bio-immuno-development.com/application.html
If, in the end as you allege, Carl’s search for some psychological Holy Grail was fruitless throughout his career, I still feel he was attempting to move humanity forward. After all, it is not the prize, but the quest for human advancement that is the point of leading-edge research. Even though stereotypical or consensus models are crumbling, and supermind and the bioplasmic field are embraced by some, we are still out on that limb.
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POSTSCRIPT: The real breakthrough came in the 1970’s with Ostrander's & Schroeder's, Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain (1970). It inspired the formation of MRU, and was its starting point. MRU investigated self-regulation techniques as well as external controls.
MRU fostered interest in energy medicine, hypnotherapy, magnetic healing, acupuncture, radionics or radiesthesia, remote healing and viewing, and psychophysical control of internal states. The MRU researchers were pathfinders, carving broad highways through the mindscape. The cross-disciplinary synergy between physics, biology, psychiatry, religion, etc., continues to be explored.
I know for a fact that MRU had these positive aims as well, since Rick Miller’s bioluminescence research was largely targeted toward developing Rapid Scan Medical Diagnosis. Now we have CAT scans, MRI, SQUID, MEG, and fMRI all using essentially similar ideas to view the inside of the body non-invasively.
Now we have regular cross-disciplinary conferences, such as the ‘Toward a Science of Consciousness’ and Quantum Mind conferences in Tucson and International Conference on Science and Consciousness in Santa Fe. Parapsychology has disappeared into consciousness studies. Dr. Krippner himself told me it has been reaborbed into mainsteam psychology, and he never calls himself a parapsychologist.
We explore the whole spectrum of approaches from philosophy of mind and dream research, to neuropsychology, pharmacology, and molecular dynamics, to neural networks, phenomenological accounts, and even the physics of reality. The aim is to lay a sound scientific foundation for future research while also reaching consensus on many scattered areas of inquiry. Institute of Noetic Sciences and other foundations have solid backing as nonprofits. There are legions of lecturing mystics on the circuit, many inspired by the “usual suspects” from MRU and its sister organizations.
There has been a major surge of interest recently in studying consciousness as more and more people have experiences that cannot be explained by traditional scientific approaches. Also there is wide popular interest in new physics as the popularity of the Indy film, “What the BLEEP Do we Know” shows. We are living and working in the midst of extraordinary changes in our concepts of the nature of humankind. Enough has been written in recent years about the seeming inadequacy of the scientific method to grapple with the enigma of the strange experiences related by the pioneers.
In the early years, parapsychology was “ghettoized” in the scientific community. A person is risking his advancement possibilities if he shows his interest in parapsychology, unless he is in the transpersonal circles, preaching to the choir of consciousness study people. Swedish forensic psychologist, Nils Wiklund, wrote an article with the title: "The parapsychological phenomena do not exist". On the other hand, Dr. Stanley Krippner (2003), even more respected now than in his days of loose association with MRU, states:
"At one level of investigation, there already are 'replications' and 'battle-tested' results, specifically the finding that about 50% of an unselected group will report having had a 'psychic experience,' supposedly involving those psi phenomena that have been given such labels as 'telepathy', 'clairvoyance', 'precognition', and 'psychokinesis' [mind over matter]. This percentage may vary from one culture, age group, and educational level to the next, but it has been repeated, in one study after another, for the last several decades."
Russell Targ (1994) claims, "[P]si is no longer elusive; it can be demonstrated when needed for study and investigation." Even though psychic training to strengthen the signal line is possible, unpredictability has been the hallmark of this emergent gift. To overcome this problem in both the theoretical and experimental arenas requires a marriage of the disciplines of physics, biology, medicine, psychology, and hypnosis.
Findings from all these fields converge in the paradoxical subject of Extra-Sensory Perception. As the ideas of quantum mechanics, relativity and parapsychology slowly make their way into our collective consciousness, our common-sense views on time and causality find themselves more strained than they've ever been in the course of human history.
At some point in history, a split occurred and we ended up with Science and Religion. Science limited its study to the material world and the Church took charge of the metaphysical realms. Now, with science studying consciousness, we are ready to reintegrate Spirituality and Science.
Researchers are probing the interface between matter, spacetime and mind with increasing precision. There is optimism that ultimately conventional pathways will be found to explain their appearance. Suggestions (Miller, 2003) have included Schumann Resonance as a nearly-instantaneous carrier of psi information or perhaps paradoxical quantum nonlocality or coherence to account for it.
There are many models that provide potentially viable explanations. The mental aspects can perhaps be described psychologically, but the mechanics require models from physics. A variety of theories have been proposed, including neurological, holographic, electromagnetic, and quantum mechanics based hypotheses.
Like electricity, no one knows how psi works. However, to foster and practice psi we don't need to know how it works, anymore than we need to know the mechanics of internal combustion to drive a car.
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Mankind Research Unlimited
Was/is owned by SCI (Systems Consultants Inc.) SCI, founded in 1966, is a military contractor which studies intelligence electronic warfare and sensor technology. They receive most of their funding from the Navy.
MRU studies dowsing, the effects of electromagnetic radiation on the central nervous system, telepathy, infra- and ultrasound, cranial implants, mind-altering drugs, bio-feedback and Krilian photography. President - Carl Schleicher.
Schleicher denies that his organization has any connection to the government.
Employees/Members: (incomplete list, not necessarily current)
· Christopher Bird
· Russian exile Stefan Possony. Psychological warfare expert with the Office of Naval Intelligence during WWII. On Board of Directors of the CIA front, the American Security Council.
· Paul E.T. Jensen, managed Air Defense Task Force on electomagnetic warfare. Also studies telepathy.
· Richard B. LaTondre, electomagnetic warfare expert, studied with the NSA. Served as an Electronics Warfare Officer and trained in combat intelligence and guerilla warfare.
· Norman Korobow, author of several classified research papers for the Bureau of Naval Weapons.
· Berthold Eric Schwartz, expert on the effects of LSD on hypnotically-induced seizures. UFOlogist, and has written on the link between UFO contactees and psychic phenomena. As of 11/94, semi-retired.
(Weberman, A.J., "The Story of Mankind Research Unlimited, Inc.", CoverAction Information Bulletin, #9, 6/80, pg 15-21)
Current (Late 1994) Information
Also called Mankind Research Foundation, Inc.
1315 Apple Ave., Silver Spring, MD 20910
Phone: 301/587-8686 Fax: 301/585-8959
Studies alternative health treatments, Kirlian photography, dowsing, biotechnolgies for the handicapped, and drug addiction.
Some projects associated with psychotechnology:
· Using "high frequency electro-stimulation of muscle and neural tissues" to stimulate atrophied muscles in the handicapped.
· "Hearing aid device, developed as an auditory nerve by-pass to the brain via the skin". Sounds similar to the Neurophone.
· "Blind 'I-C' device, based on advanced electronic signal processing technology which can enable a sightless person to 'electronically sight and view' his environment."
· Behavior modification with subliminal suggestion, for drug and cigarette addiction.
Associated with:
· The Center for Preventive Therapy and Rehabilitation
· S.A.F.E. (Society for the Application of Free Energy): Studies psionics, dowsing, radionics, and radiesthesia.
· The International Assocation for Psychotronic Research
All of the above share an address with MRU.
(Pamphlets from MRU, 11/94)
According to the Mankind Research Foundation http://members.gnn.com/MankindRF/home/a.htm home page (no longer working), MRF is associated with the Foundation for Blood Irradiation, Inc. (FFBI), Mankind Research Unlimited (MRU) and Accelerated Learning System (ALS), all of which would seem to be the same organization.
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Harribance, Sean, http://www.seanharribance.com/thepsychic.html
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Iona: How do these cover ups relate to US atomic policy?
STONE: Only a few years after Hiroshima, the US government began a series of atomic tests involving real military personnel and real or simulated/civilian situations! From the beginning it was clear these tests were disastrous, producing large amounts of radioactivity and significant exposures for humans.
Iona: Yes, it is public knowledge that both John Wayne and Susan Hayward died from cancers due to exposure incured during filming in the desert. Horses stirred up the contaminated soil, and they inhaled toxic amounts of radioactive dust.
Several Pacific Atolls were made uninhabitable for many years. Many years later some compensation was provided. However, the military and civilian exposures have been treated much less generously. By 1950 a series of ground tests started at the Desert Test Site near Las Vegas, Nevada. This became the first high tech facility known to be located in Southern Nevada.
We now know about Area 51 and Groom Lake. The atomic tests seem in retrospect to be of little value and were costly in human terms. A conservative estimate of 250,000 military personnel were exposed. Untold numbers of civilians and Downwinders also received significant fallout. Is estimated the total fallout from the Las Vegas tests to be at least 200 times Chernobyl. Many Nevada tests were ground bursts and had dirty designs. One series was appropriately named “Upshot-Knothole”.
The above ground tests lasted until the early 1960’s. A famous motion picture features the discovery that the training documents are an exact copy of those from 1950. The original US Government cover-up was carried out by the then Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights, Warren Burger.
He of course later was appointed the Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court. The Federal Courts have played a key role in these very dirty situations. In fact it is one of the largest and dirtiest in US Government history. Although in theory compensation was approved, it is not clear how many have received any significant compensation. There is substantial evidence of “cooking the books” by manipulating dose reconstruction. We will never know how many thyroid and other cancer were caused by airborne fallout. Ironically Warren Burger’s “Minnesota Twin”, current Chief Justice William Rehnquist, is dying of thyroid cancer.
Just the destruction of the veteran’s records in the late 1980’s is the domestic equivalent of the Iran Contra. It is not clear how well informed the Reagan Administration or President Nixon were on these issues. The current Atomic Test Museum and records center in Las Vegas are making a better effort to help surviving atomic veterans and exposed “Downwinders”and their families.
Several atomic activists or journalists who have spoken out were threatened or even murdered including Karen Silkwood. In 1986 the President of NARS (National Association of Radiation Survivors, Dorothy Legretta died in a similar accident also on the way to meet a New York Times reporter. This story has never been reported by the media. Dr. Legretta had a great deal of expertise and documentation. Eventually many of the documents also disappeared.
Much of the cover-up has been in the name of protecting atomic energy. However, I believe that with the newer and safer technologies available the risk of radiation exposure is much lower. To try to overcome the demonization of atomic energy the Federal Government created some of its bigger problems.
Also in 1986 an effort was made to frame an investigative writer for murder. It involved the famous FBI Agent who helped inspire the movie “Silence of the Lambs”. Both the Justice Dept. and FBI went to great lengths to carry out the cover-up! This was also linked to corruption at the University of Michigan Medical School, the largest Federal case in Michigan history. The involvement of a major University is also an important part of the story.
Iona: Speaking of protecting atomic energy secrets, I find the theory that cattle mutilations might have something to with radiation monitoring plausible because of the stealth and specific body parts taken. Do you think that cattle mutilations may have anything to do with checking radiation levels downwind and in jet stream areas in cattle and game animals?
Recently a deer “mute” was found close to a woodland residence inside a crop circle in my home town in Oregon. This incident was reported by Linda Moulton Howe, and it stands apart for its unusual combinatory features. Do you have any theories on cattle mutilations?
STONE: The Black Gold and other valuables looted from East Asia has been the basis for several NEXUS articles by a British investment banker, my contemporary, David Guyatt. He has also done a major article on electromagnetic weapons in which Carl Schleicher is also mentioned. His Nexus articles dealt with their use in non-lethal situations. It seems at least three main areas of my experience have a link to NEXUS stories. You also mentioned deer mutilations near Grant's Pass.
The most far out information I found on radiation testing is: It was used by NASA for astronaut evaluation for the Van Allen radiation belt! That was not discovered until after the Las Vegas testing started. One of the key investigators for the Manhattan project in Europe in WW II was a Dr. Kuiper. He was the person who discovered and named the Kuiper Belt of asteroids in the far reaches of the Solar System.
Much more sinister is the POTENTIAL use of the radiation studies for genetic experiments with aliens in underground labs in New Mexico, e.g. Dulce, et al. This was also part of the reason possibly for Dr. James Neel's strange experiments with dose doubling and various other studies using indigenous populations.
Iona: Are you saying you accept the presence of aliens as a given?
Knowing what you know about atomic fallout and radioactive decay, why are you not more concerned with allegations that Depleted Uranium is one of the main sources of Gulf War Syndrome? Don’t you think it is highly toxic both to humans and the environment? Please tell us your theories about GWS and how you arrive at them.
STONE: I can tell a suspected story about the Brucellosis Triangle. It has already been in NEXUS just before 9/11! My sponsor in grad school was the government top expert in Brucella. That Department at Michigan State supervised the Michigan Dept. of Health with the anthrax vaccine which was contaminated with mycoplasma. That is the probable cause of severe Gulf War Syndrome.
There are several causes for Gulf War Syndrome. I have interviewed Dr. Garth Nickolson, the most published microbiologist worldwide. He and his staff were persecuted for years until it was realized that he was important. His group has treated Gulf War soldiers with drugs which are effective against mycoplasma infections. The mycoplasma found in Gulf War veterans sometimes has gp 120 protein attachments.
Nickolson’s story is compelling including attempts by biowar terrorist companies on the life of his staff and FBI guards. He was fired from M.D. Anderson Cancer Hospital in Texas. His group is now based in Irvine, CA. He claims that 15% to 20% of the population in Iraq, southern Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and Jordan have Gulf War syndrome.
There are very strange neoplasms in Gulf War III soldiers. As the article states, the disability rate for Gulf War II is incredible. It is interesting NEXUS had an article on the Brucellosis Triangle just before 9/11. It deals with the origins of the 90 plus species of mycoplasma. During WW II the Brucella bacteria was modified and a crystalized toxin was produced (artificial mycoplasma). The gene sequence of mycoplasma fermentans is an exact copy of part of the Brucella genome.
These mycoplasma were tested worldwide after WW II causing a number of neurogenic illnesses including Parkinson's Disease, MS, Chronic Fatigue Syndrome, etc. My sponsor in graduate school at Michigan State University, Dept. of Microbiology and Public Health was the Federal Government's top expert on Brucella from the late 1930's through the 1970's. The Gulf War Anthrax vaccine was produced by the Michigan Dept. of Health in Lansing under the supervision of my Dept. at MSU. Gulf War Syndrome is associated very closely with that vaccine which was contaminated with mycoplasma.
Just before the anthrax letters were mailed, Peter Jennings at ABC News did an infomercial for CIPRO and continued to hype it throughout the anthrax crisis. There are a number of cheaper and more effective drugs for treating anthrax including penicillin V. One of the toxic anthrax letters was sent to Senator Leahy's office. His staff then covered up the investigation of Peter Jennings. So there is your media, bureaucracy and academia in action.
What evidence do you have the depleted uranium is the actual cause of the bizarre cancers, etc. seen in Gulf War III? The only proven effect of depleted uranium is kidney damage. How do you know the DU story isn't part of the cover-up for the mycoplasma fermentans story?
ROLLING STONE GATHERS MANY STORIES
Iona: That’s an angle I had not considered, but it could still be “all of the above”. What are some other topics under your rubric of ‘The Washington Connection’?
STONE: As an example of how corrupt Washington really is, it is hard to beat the following tale of academic and judicial corruption. We all have been exposed to the FBI abuses of the 1970's. Yet, many important aspects of these stories remain unknown. I would like to show you how the Federal Government and at least one major university have carried out a long-term cover-up of the worst kind. This saga starts with an Ann Arbor VA Hospital case and a medical student due process case. Both were associated with the University of Michigan, which still operates that VA Hospital, and has a top rated law and medical school.
In both instances, some of the same University and Medical officials were involved in both cases. Both were tried in the Federal District Court for Southern Michigan (Detroit) at the same time and had the same pattern of questionable activity. The VA case became a major international scandal making the front pages of The New York Times, etc. The medical student case remains unknown.
The Federal Court reversed the VA case only after intense and prolonged media scrutiny and a conviction for both nurses in an unusual maneuver. The student case was never allowed to come to trial despite the blatant evidence. The Federal Judge is a former Vice President of the Alumni Association for the same University and has a long history of questionable activity.
Later during the 1980's, the FBI tried to frame an investigator of these cases for murder. There was another vicious murder on the estate of the family which controls the tenth largest foundation in the country. That foundation is a major supporter of the Medical School in question.
John Douglas, who has been hailed as the new Sherlock Holmes and helped inspire the famous book and movie Silence of the Lambs, performed the FBI profile. Mr. Douglas is quite prominent in the media and had a book on the top ten best seller list recently. The second FBI investigation occurred at the same time as the massive veteran's controversies of the 1980's involving atomic veterans, Agent Orange questions, due process for benefits and much more.
There was large-scale destruction of atomic veterans records. The Medical School Dean responsible for the Ann Arbor VA Hospital case had become the Deputy Chief, Acting Chief and Chief Medical Director of the VA. That office is responsible for the essential questions for atomic veterans and Agent Orange related questions. The document shredding is well documented by a 1986 The Nation article by Mark Perry who shared in the 1998 Nobel Peace Prize.
This is a sample of the real story. Both the FBI and Justice Dept. fought me through Federal Court to obtain the essential records. The Dept. of Veterans Affairs made a totally unreasonable search fee of over ,000 for a fairly limited number of records relating to the Ann Arbor VA Hospital case, atomic veterans, Agent Orange questions and the former medical school dean. Let me tell you more about what really happens!
High level academic and judicial corruption with links to big issues in Washington, DC. includes several high profile questionable FBI investigations, the largest Federal case in Michigan history, the Family Rights and Privacy Act of 1974, the Student Loan System and much more. This story recently has received national publicity, making A&E Cold Files. A recent book titled Blood Justice by Tom Henderson reveals part of the story.
Yet the effort to discredit the investigative writer and the cover-up of very serious both civil and criminal fraud continues linking a major medical school with some of the largest and dirtiest cover-ups in US government history. These include the atomic veterans cover-up (the domestic equivalent of The Iran Contra), the James Neel story -- the reported largest fraud in anthropology and a lot more.
There was a concerted effort to discredit the key microbiologist who helped expose Gulf War Syndrome, Dr.Garth Nicholson and the perversion of the Buckley Act (Due Process in Education). The continued suppression of these topics by the mainstream media is among the best examples of media fraud. This includes a former President of The National Press Club in Washington, DC.
WITHIN A STONE’S THROW
Iona: One of the main tenets of the human potential movement was about choice – personal experience – decisions – moments of responsibility when you take on your own shoulders the responsibility of your fate. Futurist, Jeremy Rifkin (2004) has called this an American trait when he recently contrasted the American Dream with the European Dream.
"These are tumultuous times. Much of the world is going dark, leaving many human beings without clear direction. The European Dream is a beacon of light in a troubled world. It beckons us to a new age of inclusivity, diversity, quality of life, sustainability, universal human rights, the rights of nature, and peace on earth. We Americans used to say that the American Dream is worth dying for. The new European Dream is worth living for."
He suggested that we would have a better model for global living if we combined the two – the willingness take personal responsibility with the greater communal sense of Europe. Do you think that is the right direction to head toward solving the egregious historical problems that seem to repeat themselves over and over?
STONE: The EU was born from a conference held in Germany in late 1944. It was intended to save as much as possible from the defeat of Nazism. It was under in overall direction of Hitler's Deputy and some say by that time the real master of Germany, Martin Bormann. Right now the EU looks good! But the USA is not out! It could still outshine old Europe. We are at the end of "the American century" in a much more competitive world. But is the EU more competiive than the USA?
The EU has a more homogenious population than the USA. It does not have the large under class which has developed. It doen not have the large numbers of minorities. It does not have the huge appetite for financing from other countries. The biggest risk is almost never mentioned, the trillions of dollars of leverage in derivatives, a poorly understood financial instrument. It could all crash making 1929 like like a picnic!
ROLL AWAY THE STONE
Iona: Just how did you come to work for Dr. Schleicher? Did you ever do any SpecOps, PsiOps, or BlackOps projects? What were your qualifications for such work?
STONE: I was not with Carl until seven years after he was publically exposed in 1980. But MRU was a front for the most advanced mind control technology at that time.
My exposure to esoteric science started with Carl Schleicher. Actually a little earlier I used to like to go the the very house in Philadelphia where the famous 19th century psychic lived. It is where the dog slept on her leg and brought an overnight cure. It's the Black (or White) Dog Cafe. And of course there were other things in that area of PA, NJ, DE and MD where I lived. Even next to the Hall where the Constitution was written is The American Philosophical Assn. Especially at night it seems strange. I was there at the time of the Bicentennial of the Constitution.
I’m more of an investigator. I have used some of the Tarpley associated history in one of my projects dealing with Tavistock Institute, for example. That was the pioneer MI 6 Agency which led to MK Ultra (“Mind Kontrol”) and much more.
I believe that Dr. Carl Schleicher was a front for the most advanced high tech part of that effort when Richard Miller worked with him. Most likely Richard and his associates were not aware of Carl's full role. He had many good people working under him.
I worked with Carl from 1987 thru 1992. I was his Deputy. By that time he had been exposed by a magazine in DC. That publication was also a waste because it only exposes harmless people like Carl Schleicher essentially was! A much fuller story is of course that exposing the "powers that be" who are behind all of this. Like Carl Schleicher, the Bush people are doing what more powerful groups want done!
I have sent excerpts from the book Hitler's Terror Weapons which starts to bring that story to light for WW II. The author, Geoffrey Brooks believes that WW II was also the opening phase for an effort to completely wipeout mankind. The Germans and Japanese were to be used to carry that out and then destroy themselves. A recent fictional book in the Clive Cussler series Atlantis Found also plays on that theme being based in Argentina even using WW II era subs, etc. All of the books in that very popular series are based on true stories in my opinion. The most recent, Black Wind, even involves the weapons of mass destruction story relating to Japan. Imperial Japan had enough anthrax to kill everybody in the world!
Iona: What kind of credibility did you bring to the task of being Carl’s deputy? Do you have a Curriculum Vitae, or any advanced degrees? What special skills?
Iona: Were you an observer or a participant in any psi research? The urban myths make Carl sound like the ‘Cigarette Man’ on the X-Files. What kept you going back?
STONE: It was exciting learning about his new ideas which came along frequently or technologies to develop potentially. He had his own companys which controlled Blood Irradiation. We tried to promote several modalities for drug and alcohol abuse -- 3M Program using Kundalini Yoga, Electronic Drug and Alcohol treatment, earthquake prediction technology, a German based technique for AIDS therapy using hydrogen peroxide. It was crude but has produced cures.
There was a project for using poultry waste to produce a high protein powder for food. It was okay! But horrible! There was also a problem with the nasty chemicals used. There was a low cost housing project which never went anywhere. We stayed busy, but no breakthroughs were made TO MY KNOWLEDGE!
Iona: What types of projects were you personally involved with? Were there other projects you got wind of but were not privy to? How do we know you are not a mole? Do you happen to have any of your MRU pay stubs or tax records from that period; some kind of paper trail?
STONE: I started with Carl Schleicher by sending him a resume in the summer of 1987. He expressed interest, but suggested I wait to start. This came in the fall of 1987. At first I worked with Carl two days a week at his office. The rest of the work was done from my house in PA. It is a two + hour drive right down I-95 to downtown Silver Springs, Maryland where his office was located. It was an ideal but somewhat sleazy area. We started on promoting his key projects to save the world. I learned a lot about psychotronics, including diagnostic devices. But the emphasis was on bringing these new ideas to the attention of the Federal Government.
Iona: Many of the researchers at MRU displayed extraordinary human potentials as well as studying them. In many cases, such as psychic Sean Harribance, these unusual talents were their reason for being there. Sean began working with Dr. J.B. Rhine in 1969 and was the first to get high scores on ESP tests where EEG, EKG and galvanic skin response sensors were used. He was also the first to show a link between high ESP scores and a specific brain wave.
His site says, “In 1976, the parapsychology labs could no longer give him a salary so he moved to Maryland in search of research funds from government sources. In Maryland he did some work with Mankind Research, and continued some part-time research with Duke University. Sean began to realize that by proving himself to others, he could generate further interest in parapsychology, and the psi research.” In 1998 he continued his work with Dr. Michael Persinger.
Do you have any such abilities or try to develop them? What was the most extraordinary display of unusual abilities you saw during your work with Carl?
STONE: He never mentioned any of the interesting findings or good people like Rick Miller. We wondered about auras. It too seemed strange. I did not know about Miller's work until recently. Regarding known personalities: I met a Dr. Zedek who was President of the International Psychotronic Association from Czechoslovakia. I met Dr. Eldon Byrd who died several years ago who was a known personality. I met a better and more competant version of Carl, Mark Benza. He was based in Calgary, Alberta. Mark did make a number of breakthroughs. But he was a misguided genius! He also died several years ago.I did learn about remote viewing, dowsing and a lot more.
NOT MADE OF STONE
Iona: On a positive note, Carl seems to have focused even more strongly on health and healing when he created MRF. Perhaps he’d had enough of the “Dark Side”. It is ironic that even though MRU is blamed for some of the most heinous psychophysical experimentation, it also seems to have been the herald of social trends such as the LSD era of the 60s and the fad that came to stay, the New Age movement. Most of my psychotherapist friends blame the cavalier attitude of Timothy Leary for ruining the therapeutic potential of psychoactive drugs.
STONE: It is almost certain that the Unabomber was associated with a key mind control expert at Harvard when he was identified as a 16 year old mathematical genius. It is believed that something was done to him at that lead to his madness. That is just one of the examples of the damage caused. Not the least of these was turning universities into huge drug and alcohol dens!
It was only after his death in 1999 that we knew of the earlier role of MRU as a front for the CIA for its most sensitive mind control technology. In one book, CIA Mind Control Operations in the USA, Carl is credited with inventing the cyborg, a human robot triggered by external means. We will never know the full extent of MK Ultra.
Some of the technolgies featured in NEXUS or by MRF in embryonic development will someday be used in medicine or energy medicine. Some medium technological examples are showing up now for healing or pain management.
Iona: Like TENS and Alpha-Stim, which have become pain and depression management staples. One interrupts the pain signal to the brain and the other uses tunable transcranical electrostimulation to create brainwave coherence – Alpha and Theta. Still other brain-driving techniques use resonance or brainwave entrainment.
You loosely allege that virtually nothing MRU/MRF investigated panned out. Yet that isn’t quite true if you have a comprehensive view on where this research went. Rick and I are personally continuing this work with Lian Sidorov at www.emergentmind.org with its Journal of Nonlocality and Remote Mental Interactions, for example. We’ve interviewed many of the original MRU and SRI players who are still active in the field. We also continue our independent investigations through the Organization for the Advancement of Knowledge (O.A.K.).
STONE: Yes, in his later years, Carl Schleicher tried to bring esoteric knowledge to the attention of the Federal Government for AIDS, Cancer, Drug and Alcohol Abuse, etc. MRF brought forward a number of approaches which could have been developed. Unfortunately, he turned off the very people he wanted to influence. I was his Deputy at that time.
Iona: I am interested in hearing what you mean by “turned them off” and who “they” are. Are we talking about personality, credibility, or incredibility?
STONE: Carl was a pretty strange man. I wish I had a picture of his desk. You have seen the cartoon "The Professor" with the stacks of papers etc. He had file drawers full of old reports, some open. He had an office manager, Roger Little and typist, Bob (both male). Roger Little moved to Salt Lake City to work for the Mormon Church and moved on. One had a mental handicap but could not read Carl's handwriting. (Idiot Savant, I presume).
I assisted Carl with all DC based activities. This included marketing, sales, promotion, evaluation of technology, media contact, attending conventions etc.
Carl mentioned his previous lab and much bigger operation on Kalorama Rd. in DC. But provided no details. He claimed his earlier work was as a Naval Intel Officer working on intercepts and codes in Turkey. Most of our time was spent promoting his "innovative" approaches. Often there was something wrong with the technologies. Then there was Carl's personality.
He was a classic Dr. Strangelove.
We knew very little about his earlier operation in which Rick Miller and other known researchers were involved. To my knowledge Carl was not involved in supervising research. But he had a lot of people in the wings who were ready to go if he made another breakthrough.
His way of dealing with people turned everybody off. He was especially bad with women. He had a nice widow from Hungary and California who would visit from time to time. It was only a plutonic [sic] relationship. His handwriting and other communication skills were not very good for a very smart man. Even his English was not that good.
Carl was constantly sending information to people about psychotronics and being a Johnny Appleseed in that way. We had a number of interesting people and scientists who visited the office. But again Carl's social skills were't very good. He would never even have coffee or tea for visitors. That is part of the reason for my questions to you and Richard about his past activities.
Over the years my knowledge has expanded in different areas. NEXUS does present an ideal outlet for some psychotronic ideas but goes far beyond that field. There is actually a range of technologies from electronic to electromagnetic to suble energies to psychotronics and beyond.
After Carl was exposed in 1980 he never recovered his "glory days". It does appear that he contributed to or was given credit for a number of important findings. Again that is a reason for my questions.
Iona: It looks to me like the truth is unresolvably muddied. I think he has gotten credit for things he did not do, for both good and evil. Likewise, he has perhaps not been recognized as an important link in the chain of many biomedical advances, for example.
I have not worked with Carl since 1990. But I did stay in contact with him and would stop by his office over the next decade. He liked me! But he was difficult to work for or with. But there were always a lot of good people like Richard Miller who did the actual work, each in their respective areas.
Iona: The MRF pamphlet for 1994 listed the following:
Studies alternative health treatments, Kirlian photography, dowsing, biotechnolgies for the handicapped, and drug addiction.
Some projects associated with psychotechnology:
Using "high frequency electro-stimulation of muscle and neural tissues" to stimulate atrophied muscles in the handicapped.
"Hearing aid device, developed as an auditory nerve by-pass to the brain via the skin". Sounds similar to the Neurophone.
"Blind 'I-C' device, based on advanced electronic signal processing technology which can enable a sightless person to 'electronically sight and view' his environment."
Behavior modification with subliminal suggestion, for drug and cigarette addiction.
Associated with:
The Center for Preventive Therapy and Rehabilitation
S.A.F.E. (Society for the Application of Free Energy): Studies psionics, dowsing, radionics, and radiesthesia.
The International Assocation for Psychotronic Research
All of the above shared an address with MRU.
STONE: Several months ago I tried to pass on to General Motors new ideas and technologies for health care. The only one which could be used was the electronic drug and alcohol treatment.I still have my papers from that era. In fact, I have a box of unsorted documents which could still yield something! We had a joke about Carl’s voluminous proprietary files which he claimed if “raided” might have some value. I don't know what his sister did with Carl's papers.
But it does appear from Richard Miller's work and corroboration that Carl played an important role in supervising a group of diverse people. In addition he was a worldwide "Johnny Appleseed" for psychotronics, etc. Hopefully it will bear fruit some day.
Iona: Online there is a 1995 research paper Carl himself wrote on his ultraviolet irradiation of blood project, as the Foundation for Blood Irradiation. Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation (UBI or UBIT) is a certified nontoxic therapy that inactivates blood-borne viruses, such as Hepatitis and HIV. It is also called Photoluminescence, Hematologic Oxidative Therapy. It raises the resistance of the host to control the disease process. In his tests, each treatment of UBI reduced PCR Viral Activity by 50%-75%.
http://www.bio-immuno-development.com/application.html
If, in the end as you allege, Carl’s search for some psychological Holy Grail was fruitless throughout his career, I still feel he was attempting to move humanity forward. After all, it is not the prize, but the quest for human advancement that is the point of leading-edge research. Even though stereotypical or consensus models are crumbling, and supermind and the bioplasmic field are embraced by some, we are still out on that limb.
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POSTSCRIPT: The real breakthrough came in the 1970’s with Ostrander's & Schroeder's, Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain (1970). It inspired the formation of MRU, and was its starting point. MRU investigated self-regulation techniques as well as external controls.
MRU fostered interest in energy medicine, hypnotherapy, magnetic healing, acupuncture, radionics or radiesthesia, remote healing and viewing, and psychophysical control of internal states. The MRU researchers were pathfinders, carving broad highways through the mindscape. The cross-disciplinary synergy between physics, biology, psychiatry, religion, etc., continues to be explored.
I know for a fact that MRU had these positive aims as well, since Rick Miller’s bioluminescence research was largely targeted toward developing Rapid Scan Medical Diagnosis. Now we have CAT scans, MRI, SQUID, MEG, and fMRI all using essentially similar ideas to view the inside of the body non-invasively.
Now we have regular cross-disciplinary conferences, such as the ‘Toward a Science of Consciousness’ and Quantum Mind conferences in Tucson and International Conference on Science and Consciousness in Santa Fe. Parapsychology has disappeared into consciousness studies. Dr. Krippner himself told me it has been reaborbed into mainsteam psychology, and he never calls himself a parapsychologist.
We explore the whole spectrum of approaches from philosophy of mind and dream research, to neuropsychology, pharmacology, and molecular dynamics, to neural networks, phenomenological accounts, and even the physics of reality. The aim is to lay a sound scientific foundation for future research while also reaching consensus on many scattered areas of inquiry. Institute of Noetic Sciences and other foundations have solid backing as nonprofits. There are legions of lecturing mystics on the circuit, many inspired by the “usual suspects” from MRU and its sister organizations.
There has been a major surge of interest recently in studying consciousness as more and more people have experiences that cannot be explained by traditional scientific approaches. Also there is wide popular interest in new physics as the popularity of the Indy film, “What the BLEEP Do we Know” shows. We are living and working in the midst of extraordinary changes in our concepts of the nature of humankind. Enough has been written in recent years about the seeming inadequacy of the scientific method to grapple with the enigma of the strange experiences related by the pioneers.
In the early years, parapsychology was “ghettoized” in the scientific community. A person is risking his advancement possibilities if he shows his interest in parapsychology, unless he is in the transpersonal circles, preaching to the choir of consciousness study people. Swedish forensic psychologist, Nils Wiklund, wrote an article with the title: "The parapsychological phenomena do not exist". On the other hand, Dr. Stanley Krippner (2003), even more respected now than in his days of loose association with MRU, states:
"At one level of investigation, there already are 'replications' and 'battle-tested' results, specifically the finding that about 50% of an unselected group will report having had a 'psychic experience,' supposedly involving those psi phenomena that have been given such labels as 'telepathy', 'clairvoyance', 'precognition', and 'psychokinesis' [mind over matter]. This percentage may vary from one culture, age group, and educational level to the next, but it has been repeated, in one study after another, for the last several decades."
Russell Targ (1994) claims, "[P]si is no longer elusive; it can be demonstrated when needed for study and investigation." Even though psychic training to strengthen the signal line is possible, unpredictability has been the hallmark of this emergent gift. To overcome this problem in both the theoretical and experimental arenas requires a marriage of the disciplines of physics, biology, medicine, psychology, and hypnosis.
Findings from all these fields converge in the paradoxical subject of Extra-Sensory Perception. As the ideas of quantum mechanics, relativity and parapsychology slowly make their way into our collective consciousness, our common-sense views on time and causality find themselves more strained than they've ever been in the course of human history.
At some point in history, a split occurred and we ended up with Science and Religion. Science limited its study to the material world and the Church took charge of the metaphysical realms. Now, with science studying consciousness, we are ready to reintegrate Spirituality and Science.
Researchers are probing the interface between matter, spacetime and mind with increasing precision. There is optimism that ultimately conventional pathways will be found to explain their appearance. Suggestions (Miller, 2003) have included Schumann Resonance as a nearly-instantaneous carrier of psi information or perhaps paradoxical quantum nonlocality or coherence to account for it.
There are many models that provide potentially viable explanations. The mental aspects can perhaps be described psychologically, but the mechanics require models from physics. A variety of theories have been proposed, including neurological, holographic, electromagnetic, and quantum mechanics based hypotheses.
Like electricity, no one knows how psi works. However, to foster and practice psi we don't need to know how it works, anymore than we need to know the mechanics of internal combustion to drive a car.
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Mankind Research Unlimited
Was/is owned by SCI (Systems Consultants Inc.) SCI, founded in 1966, is a military contractor which studies intelligence electronic warfare and sensor technology. They receive most of their funding from the Navy.
MRU studies dowsing, the effects of electromagnetic radiation on the central nervous system, telepathy, infra- and ultrasound, cranial implants, mind-altering drugs, bio-feedback and Krilian photography. President - Carl Schleicher.
Schleicher denies that his organization has any connection to the government.
Employees/Members: (incomplete list, not necessarily current)
· Christopher Bird
· Russian exile Stefan Possony. Psychological warfare expert with the Office of Naval Intelligence during WWII. On Board of Directors of the CIA front, the American Security Council.
· Paul E.T. Jensen, managed Air Defense Task Force on electomagnetic warfare. Also studies telepathy.
· Richard B. LaTondre, electomagnetic warfare expert, studied with the NSA. Served as an Electronics Warfare Officer and trained in combat intelligence and guerilla warfare.
· Norman Korobow, author of several classified research papers for the Bureau of Naval Weapons.
· Berthold Eric Schwartz, expert on the effects of LSD on hypnotically-induced seizures. UFOlogist, and has written on the link between UFO contactees and psychic phenomena. As of 11/94, semi-retired.
(Weberman, A.J., "The Story of Mankind Research Unlimited, Inc.", CoverAction Information Bulletin, #9, 6/80, pg 15-21)
Current (Late 1994) Information
Also called Mankind Research Foundation, Inc.
1315 Apple Ave., Silver Spring, MD 20910
Phone: 301/587-8686 Fax: 301/585-8959
Studies alternative health treatments, Kirlian photography, dowsing, biotechnolgies for the handicapped, and drug addiction.
Some projects associated with psychotechnology:
· Using "high frequency electro-stimulation of muscle and neural tissues" to stimulate atrophied muscles in the handicapped.
· "Hearing aid device, developed as an auditory nerve by-pass to the brain via the skin". Sounds similar to the Neurophone.
· "Blind 'I-C' device, based on advanced electronic signal processing technology which can enable a sightless person to 'electronically sight and view' his environment."
· Behavior modification with subliminal suggestion, for drug and cigarette addiction.
Associated with:
· The Center for Preventive Therapy and Rehabilitation
· S.A.F.E. (Society for the Application of Free Energy): Studies psionics, dowsing, radionics, and radiesthesia.
· The International Assocation for Psychotronic Research
All of the above share an address with MRU.
(Pamphlets from MRU, 11/94)
According to the Mankind Research Foundation http://members.gnn.com/MankindRF/home/a.htm home page (no longer working), MRF is associated with the Foundation for Blood Irradiation, Inc. (FFBI), Mankind Research Unlimited (MRU) and Accelerated Learning System (ALS), all of which would seem to be the same organization.
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Harribance, Sean, http://www.seanharribance.com/thepsychic.html
Krippner, Stanley, “Psi Research and the Human Brain’s ‘Reserve Capacities’”, DynaPsych. http://www.goertzel.org/dynapsych/1996/stan.html
Krippner, Stanley (Ed.), Advances in Parapsychological Research, Vol. I and Vol. II.
Laszlo, Ervin (1996). "Subtle Connectins: Psi,
Grof, Jung, and the Quantum Vacuum”; DynaPsych.
Laszlo, Ervin (1994). “Toward a Physical Foundation for Psi Phenomena.” J. B. Rhine Lecture. American Parapsychological Assn., Amsterdam, August 8, 1994.
Motoyama, Hiroshi with Rande Brown, Science and the Evolution of Consciousness: Chakras, Ki and Psi.
Miller, Iona (2003), “New Millennium Psi Research: ESP, Hypnosis and Remote Viewing”, Chaosophy 2003.
Ostrander's & Schröder (1970), Psychic Discoveries Behind the Iron Curtain.
Persinger, Michael A. (1989), "Psi Phenomena and Temporal Lobe Activity: The Geomagnetic Factor," in
I.A. Henkel and R. E. Berger (eds.) Research in Parapsychology 1988, Metuchen, NJ: Scarcrow Press.
Persinger M.A., & Krippner S. (1989). Dream ESP experiments and geomagnetic activity. Journal of the American Society of Psychical Research, 83, 101- 106.
Sidrov, Lian (2003a). “Editor’s Note”, http://emergentmind.org/editor’snotes.htm
Sidorov. Lian (2003b). “Landscaping the Mind: Interview with Joseph McMoneagle,” http://emergentmind.org/mcmoneagle_II2.htm
Sidorov, Lian (2003c). “Thinking Outside the Box in Experimental Parapsychology,” http://emergentmind.org/sidorovII2.htm
Swann, Ingo 1997a Non-Conscious Participation in Social Concensus Realities, Firedocs, Chap 1, Internet
Weberman, A.J. "Mind Control: The Story of Mankind Research Unlimited, Inc." Covert Action Information Bulletin 9 (June 1990): 15-21.
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